Good stuff. You make some great points. I’m a loan originator in Colorado. I’ve operated virtually since 2007 and have driven a lot of expense out of my business. This rule is increasing the cost of my services to my customers. So annoying. Good luck and keep writing about this stuff. We need to explain to folks what is happening. Cheers, Jason B.
This clears up a lot of the confusion about loan officers, interest rates and payment. It is essential to get the facts out there for new loan officers and everyday people trying to understand what is going on with rates.
Walls street not only incented Loan Officers and Mortgage Brokers on Higher commission on the most profitables products, they also increased the rates and fees of those most logic loans like 30 or 15 years fixed rates, so people would walk away from them into the moost profitable.. So who is steering? We were just the sales people of their products.
Great summary. Consumers are not being informed regarding the negative consequences of this latest rule.
This law is simply unconstitutional, period. It is price fixing and should not be allowed. Whenever the government says that the basis for a law or policy is for someone or another countries safety it is a lie. That usually translates to someone is going to get rich and it definitely isn’t a little guy. My biggest problem with this law is that i can no longer offer a different rate to different clients based on circumstance and in this age of bad credit, deflated home values, high unemployment, lost savings and depleted reserves everyone’s circumstance and loan is just like the people who have or want the loan….they are all like snowflakes, everyone is different. Yes, i must now set how much i will make on a loan that i have not even seen yet and will not see for months.. this means that no matter if the loan amount is $100,000 or $1,000,000 I will have to charge the same YSP and no matter if the loan is for me, my mother or a stranger. I can no longer offer someone with not a lot of equity an option to reduce closing costs with a higher interest rate or discount point, or raise or lower my commission based on loan amount. To be competitive i can no longer lower my YSP for a $1,000,000 loan to compete with other banks because i have to set YSP at certain levels for the $100,000-$200k loans so that i can be sure to cover my costs. also, anyone who is not a branch owner that does not work for the big 4, is at a substantial disadvantage to anyone who does own a branch because of the splits we have to pay. Consumers these days are smarter and do shop around. For me to make ONE POINT on a deal i have to set my YSP at 2 to pay my office their share. But the owners of the branches can charge 1.5-2 and give a lower rate than i can and still make more than me. How is that fair. Basically, this law is set up to do one thing and one thing only… to put as much money into the banks pockets and keep them fat as possible without compensating the LO’s who bring in the loans. Bottom line… 55% of all loans in this country are originated by a LO who does not work for one of the big banks. This law allows them to pay us less (and to stay competitive in this market no one will be making more than one point per deal unless your client is stupid… and the banks will keep the rest… they now pay their employees less, pay the branches and LO’s less and keep what i believe should NOT be theirs to begin with. If the government wants to really help the consumers and the American people, they should put a fully licensed federal Loan officer in every post office in the country and lend to the people directly. The banks are getting our pooled tax dollars for nothing and then selling it (lending) back to us at 5% and up. the government could lend directly to us for 2-3% and we would all have half of the mortgage payments we have now. Also, that would generate a ton of new revenue for the government that could be used for medicade, SS benefits, insfrastructure repairs, and anything else we needed ie. healthcare… why do the banks get this sweethart deal? if my business fails i do not get a bailout… i dont get laws made to benefit my business directly… If they cant pay their bills we give them a bailout, so they have no risk and all of the rewards… so why not us lend to ourselves and keep the profits for social programs that are being cut lower every year since taxpayers are basically taking the banks business risk for them? ie TARP… and with half a mortgage payment that equals more disposable income for every household and maybe… hmmmm that might help this poor economy too!!!!!!! sounds simple enough to me. But i only have a masters degree in business from Penn State so i guess i have no clue what im talking about. Bottom line… if nothing else the government has no business price fixing anything nevermind the compensation for LO’s. why can a realtor still make 6%? why can a car salesman make 3X what another car salesman makes down the street on the same car? and not that i think making sure that people dont get ripped off, because with all the problems this country has no one should make more than 2-3k per loan because honestly its not that hard of a job.. what ever happened to CAVEAT EMPTOR? i believe that was a law and still applies to everything except the mortgage business. Can we please STOP giving the banks all of our money and letting them get away with whatever they want. If the government wants to help the consumer tell them to make a law that structured and predetermined what the banks could do with all of the TARP money and not just wright a check and hope they dont give billion dollar bonuses to CEO’s and rent yachts for parties.. that might be a good start
also what if interest rates change during the loan process and the YSP goes up or down? either the office you work for will loose money since they have to pay the set commission amount or we will loose money because the quoted rate gives higher YSP. we will not see the higher YSP in these cases and the borrower will not get a lower rate because the GFE can no longer be changed once it is submitted. SO how does that protect the consumer. I would always pass those savings along to the client, but now they, nor I will see any of those increased bips. only the owners of the branch you work for will.. i love when the gov tries to save me!!!!!!!!
Anthony,
You make some great points and I agree. I would suggest you forward your comment to Mike Anderson at NAMB. mikea@essentialmtg.com Don’t know if it will help, but it can’t hurt. Thanks for reading.
It amazes me how everyone is complacent on letting our rights be violated especially discrimination laws. How is it the same person, selling the same product working for a bank is not required to pass the same regulatory requirements as others in the same industry?
Unfortunately Garbriel, it comes down to lobbying and money. The large banking institutions have the best lobbyiests that money can buy, and as a result they can shape the debate in their favor. Is it right? No, in my opinion. The old saying was the Might Makes Right and we know that to be morally wrong. Nowaday’s it seems to be MONEY Makes Right, which might be even more morally indefensible.
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New FED LO Compensation rules will change the lending landscape and possibly Capitalism!
Sorry I’ve been away for so long. The Mortgage industry lately has been very tumultuous. There are a whole slew of regulations slated to take effect in the next 30 to I don’t know how many days.
Under the guise of protecting consumers, new loan officer compensation rules which were slated to take effect on April 1, have been delayed, by industry lawsuits and a granting of a Temporary Stay until at least April 5th. These new rules are going to have an incredible impact on how loans are originated and how consumers will shop for loans over the coming years.
The premise of these rule changes are legitimate. However, the effect of these changes is that loan officers will be the only job in America and under Capitalism where the federal government is telling us how much money we can earn, regardless of how many hours we work on a particular file.
Currently for many loans, a loan officer’s compensation is tied to the interest rate. And what that means is that depending on your interest rate a loan officer may earn more or less money on a given loan. Now what is wrong with that? The MOST important thing to note is that when I quote a rate, there is NO obligation for a borrower to complete their loan transaction with me. They can get quotes from as many lenders as they choose and if I am not competitive, then I will not get the deal.
Virtually every other industry in America is given license to determine how much their time and expertise is worth. When you go to an attorney and explain your case to him, he may charge an hourly work rate or may take your case on a contingency basis. If an hourly rate, the attorney determines how much work he may have to do and what that case might be worth to him when quoting you a price. You’re free to shop other attorneys to determine whether that price is fair or if you might be paying a little bit more because this attorney is top-notch and has the experience that you need to make sure that your case is handled correctly and efficiently.
Dentists, medical specialists, auto mechanics, plumbers, real estate agents, and countless other businesses determine their pricing based on the job at hand and what is required.
So why the change?
Because of this pay structure, in the past some unscrupulous loan officers and mortgage brokers steered borrowers to higher interest rate loans so the loan officers could earn more money. Additionally, the borrowers may have qualified for another loan, but it was determined that some loan officers weren’t making the clients aware of these other loans that didn’t pay the loan officers as well. This is known as steering. How big an issue it was is anyone’s guess. BUT, many borrowers who were caught up in the feeding frenzy that became house appreciation of the late 1990s to mid-2000s, wanted the smallest monthly payment because they expected their house to appreciate in value. Interest-only loans, no money down loans, option arm loans became the product of choice because they allowed borrowers to afford more home and spend less money. Wall Street, who created many of these loans and was always seeking more market share, incented loan officers and mortgage brokers at a higher rate of commission on these profitable products. At least they were profitable until the housing market busted and all these bad loans came home to roost. Because there were more exotic and subprime loans available, borrowers, Wall Street and loan officers were happy to take advantage of these products.
However, the loan market has changed dramatically since the mortgage market meltdown. Virtually anybody applying for conventional loan these days must fit into a box. Borrowers must be able to document their income, have steady employment with at a two-year history, meet debt to income ratio tolerances and have good credit. Because these loans are more of a commodity, lenders have become much more competitive in their interest rate pricing.
These new loans however are not simple. Yes, they are traditional 30 year fixed, 15 year fixed, and five year arm mortgages to name a few, however, the tightening of guidelines has made it more important than ever that when a borrower seeks financing they find a truly competent and educated loan officer.
So with all these new rules and regulations one would think that consumer would be more protected. I guess that depends on who you talk to. Loan officers associated with non-depository lenders, now known as creditors under the new regulations, must pass national and state licensing exams, take pre-licensing education and annual continuing education, are subject to background checks, credit report analysis and fingerprinting. Licensed loan officers have a fiduciary responsibility to their clients. This means that I have to have your best interests at heart whenever I quote a loan for you.
Personally that’s not an issue because I always have my client’s best interests at heart. If I don’t quote correctly and competitively, clients are free to shop anywhere they want and I would be losing loans left and right.
But here’s the rub, I been doing this for over eight years, have my MBA, was in corporate finance prior to this, studied for and passed my national exams and passed five state exams at my expense.
Loan officers at large lending institutions i.e. NATIONAL BANKS that spend billions on advertising, took billions in taxpayer bailouts, are not required to be licensed. So when you walk into your local retail bank and you speak to a loan officer there, you really don’t know what their qualifications are. My licensing information is public record and can be obtained by anybody by going to be NMLS website.
This is just another example of how banks deemed “too big to fail” are shaping the political rhetoric and economic policies of this country. They are opposed to having their loan officers licensed. Now what I foresee is that eventually non-depository institutions, small banks and those now considered as creditors may be forced out of the industry. This is a way for those banks too big to fail to regain market share. What happens when competition is driven out of the industry? Prices rise, or in this case consumer costs and interest rates will rise and the banks will make even more money than they are currently making.
I could go on for several hours but I don’t want to bore you, however there are many other regulation changes upcoming that will have a significant impact on anyone applying for a loan. So my next post will talk about how the Department of Labor decided to change the job classification of loan officers from exempt to non-exempt and what the ramifications to the consumers are as a result of that.
As always, I look foward to your comments and please email me at dgaffin@greenparkmortgage.com if you need any loan information.